tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799063729216697105.post139259042167772232..comments2024-01-08T00:40:21.139-08:00Comments on Frieddogleg: Jane Hamsher is RightPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09974356693812650266noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799063729216697105.post-62608720392300593082009-12-31T13:02:19.248-08:002009-12-31T13:02:19.248-08:00And there it is, neatly summed up in your last six...And there it is, neatly summed up in your last six words; everyone's ideals are different and it's nearly impossible to reach a consensus on anything.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09974356693812650266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799063729216697105.post-87193080509740862342009-12-31T12:09:04.706-08:002009-12-31T12:09:04.706-08:00While I'm in general agreement with that, the ...While I'm in general agreement with that, the problem is that in all the polls, the Swiss/German style multi-payer system polls higher than single-payer does. As in, 75% approval rating vs. 55% approval rating. And the chances of Democrats getting the spine to choose the less popular option are almost nil, jellyfish have more spine than the Democratic Congress. <br /><br />So it simply isn&#BadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799063729216697105.post-15290380127660066182009-12-31T11:57:52.242-08:002009-12-31T11:57:52.242-08:00Regulation is key to the whole thing, isn't it...Regulation is key to the whole thing, isn't it, 'Tux? And how long will it be until health insurers' lobbyists and bought-and-paid-for politicians begin working to undermine the regulations? Can we reasonably expect that the insurance industry will be more moral and less corrupt than the banking industry? Not based on anything I've seen in my lifetime, we can't. Therefore, my Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09974356693812650266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799063729216697105.post-23049958101359170412009-12-31T10:52:44.072-08:002009-12-31T10:52:44.072-08:00Phil, the system in the bill is basically a conglo...Phil, the system in the bill is basically a conglomeration of the Swiss and German systems. There's nothing *inherently* wrong with the basic health care financing architecture set up by the bill. It's not single-payer, but single-payer is not necessary in order to get the benefits we typically attribute to single-payer (reduction in paperwork and claims-processing expenses, reducing in BadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799063729216697105.post-366295262976329402009-12-31T10:46:16.605-08:002009-12-31T10:46:16.605-08:00Hey, 'Tux,
My greatest fear is that if the cu...Hey, 'Tux,<br /><br />My greatest fear is that if the current bill becomes law, it will become an excuse for not legislating real reform for another 30 or 40 years. The bill retains many of the problems inherent within our badly broken system, and applying band-aids is no way to treat a gaping wound.<br /><br />We can--and must--do a better job of reforming the health care system than what Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09974356693812650266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799063729216697105.post-78728463509595481342009-12-30T17:44:34.592-08:002009-12-30T17:44:34.592-08:00Actually, it doesn't affect 95% of those who c...Actually, it doesn't affect 95% of those who currently have health insurance, because they have health insurance through their employer and the bill does no (zero) change to the current laws regarding employer-provided health insurance. The middle class largely has health insurance through their employers, so it will have almost no (zero) effect upon the middle class at all. The people it *BadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.com